noise on output of FV-1

Hardware questions and issues with the FV-1

Moderator: frank

Post Reply
alexQ
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm

noise on output of FV-1

Post by alexQ »

hi,
I built a little audio mixer and I have a lot of noise on the output, it souds like white noise.
I used a 32768 crystal, is that maybe the reason, do I need some filtering ?

I used the schematics that I found under "typical applications" in the data sheet.

greetings
frank
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:26 pm
Contact:

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by frank »

Without seeing the board it is impossible to say. Often noise is a result of the layout, ground plane, etc.
Frank Thomson
Experimental Noize
alexQ
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by alexQ »

ok sorry,
here is a picture of the schematcs, I made the "insert point" by myself, it could be wrong, maybe the reason for the noise ?
here is the picture link:
https://ibb.co/W6vkPD4

I soldered the output of the preamp to the input of the fv-1 via a 10K poti, because the preamp output was much too hot, and the output I send back to the next amp stage, maybe thats wrong ?
frank
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:26 pm
Contact:

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by frank »

We need to see the physical board, most noise issues have nothing to do with the schematic and are board layout/wiring issues.
Frank Thomson
Experimental Noize
alexQ
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by alexQ »

ok, I made a photo:
here is the url:
https://imgur.com/a/jIgwjOt

on the lower side of the board there are normal lines, no gnd plane
frank
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:26 pm
Contact:

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by frank »

No ground plane means noise, without a plane you will have ground loops, etc. Best results are 4 layer boards with a ground and power planes.

All those wires running over the top could be an issue. Try to put all connections at the edge of the board and route them away from the board not over it.

What is mounted on the bottom edge of the board (or the board is mounted to it)? Assuming the board is not shielded and just exposed like this can also be an issue.
Frank Thomson
Experimental Noize
alexQ
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by alexQ »

hi and thx for the info.

you mean that the white noise is because of the missing groundplane ? I dont have hum problems or sth like this kind of noise.
I cannot make 4 layer boards just to avoid noise of the fv-1, I could make a 2 layer board with a groundplane, is that egough?

In the datasheet is written, that there must be some kind of lowpass filtering on the output, I have used the 32768Hz crystal, could it maybe this "noise" thing ?

greetings
ps: I dont understand much of electronics, could you maybe take a look at the schematics and tell me, if I did the insertion of the fv-1 the right way into the signal path of the mixer?
frank
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:26 pm
Contact:

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by frank »

Impossible to say if that is correct. You state it is from the output of a preamp but for what? A guitar amp? And why is the signal so hot, the FV-1 is a low voltage device not intended to be dropped in the middle of a high voltage circuit.

If it is a tube amp then don't mess with it, dangerous high voltages in there.

Since you say you have very little electronics experience I suggest you not mess with inserting something between amp stages until you know a lot more.
Frank Thomson
Experimental Noize
alexQ
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Re: noise on output of FV-1

Post by alexQ »

hi,
the input is a guitar or a microphone, no tube amp, just headphone amp section after the insert.
did you look at the schematics ? I just want to know, if my insertion is ok or not, please answer me about this, if you understand electronics, you would help me a lot.

greetings
joachim
Post Reply