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Re: Mid Reference Capacitor

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:08 pm
by mportnoy
Interesting discussion.

I've been using 85 c 1uf electrolytics in my design for the ref and mid caps. I haven't seen any issues with ADC or DAC conversion.

This is OT, but I managed to get the chip's noise performance below -100dB unweighted. I won't say exactly how low, but I will say that I don't have to use any external audio path filtration with the chip. My dev research showed that the FV-1 is sensitive to power supply noise (like all converters). Also, it sounds WAY better at 3.3v than it does at 3v.

The one thing I found that just drove me nuts during dev was fighting clock noise on power supply pins. Not sure if that's a normal issue? I resolved it eventually.

Anyway, just my 2 cents about the ref and mid caps.

Re: Mid Reference Capacitor

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:17 pm
by Sweetalk
mportnoy wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:08 pm Interesting discussion.

I've been using 85 c 1uf electrolytics in my design for the ref and mid caps. I haven't seen any issues with ADC or DAC conversion.

This is OT, but I managed to get the chip's noise performance below -100dB unweighted. I won't say exactly how low, but I will say that I don't have to use any external audio path filtration with the chip. My dev research showed that the FV-1 is sensitive to power supply noise (like all converters). Also, it sounds WAY better at 3.3v than it does at 3v.

The one thing I found that just drove me nuts during dev was fighting clock noise on power supply pins. Not sure if that's a normal issue? I resolved it eventually.

Anyway, just my 2 cents about the ref and mid caps.
Can you make a separate post on your findings/recommendations?

Re: Mid Reference Capacitor

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:02 pm
by knutolai
mportnoy wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:08 pm This is OT, but I managed to get the chip's noise performance below -100dB unweighted. I won't say exactly how low, but I will say that I don't have to use any external audio path filtration with the chip. My dev research showed that the FV-1 is sensitive to power supply noise (like all converters). Also, it sounds WAY better at 3.3v than it does at 3v.

The one thing I found that just drove me nuts during dev was fighting clock noise on power supply pins. Not sure if that's a normal issue? I resolved it eventually.
Would be very interesting indeed!

mportnoy's follow up thread can be found here:
http://www.spinsemi.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4612#p4612